DR -- didn't see the context. but usually refers to "Dead Reckoning" position. ( As opposed to a fix) DR is therefore the best guess as to where we are based on speed, drift or leeway, and current. A fix is where an exact (more or less) location has been derived from more scientific measurements such as sun or star sights, or compass bearings of fixed land objects. If you care to come up to the wheelhouse at sometime, I'll show you my Norries Nautical Tables, the current Nautical Almanac, and explain spherical trigonometry for you. (We do have some chilled Dom Perignon in the chartroom fridge!!) :pint:

Cheers Boss, Ta very much :pint:

I was hoping that you wouldn't tell me to take it back.

btw - Isn't free booze already part of the job for running the bar? Or did I get that bit wrong?

You've got it wrong. It isn't Mrs Varley's little boy that does the explory thing it's Mrs Varley's Brother-in-Law and I am quite sure I could not get Uncle Bruv to come with us. I don't even know where his urn is.

[QUOTE=Tom Alexander;2563]DR -- didn't see the context.

[I]Shackleton was given several DR's and eventually thrown over the rail as a lightweight[/I]

In this context Tom.

My apologies Red-17 but you have settled in so well you are regarded as an "old hand" which is a compliment by the way. :D

DR = Declined to Report in other words he was feckin' useless and not worthy of comment. :cloud: (i.e. Questionable behaviour)

If it is adventure and excitement you seek I will be delighted to explain the mysteries of the Golden Rivet and also the shafting arrangements below the steering gear flat if you think you are brave enough to venture into such uncharted waters :wink:

If you are going down the engine room be sure to wear ear defenders if we are steaming at sea, Its rather noisy. not so loud in the tunnel where you can see Tmacs shafting.

Apsley Cherry-Garrard wrote a book called "The Worst Journey in the World" and he was just going for a little walk to see some Penguins. I find this troubling, it doesn't sound as though he really enjoyed it, and no-one wanted the eggs they brought back. Perhaps we could rig a very cold shower on the deck and all stand in it for 2 hours and then vote on going South. I always wanted to do this but just lately I have lost the inclination.

Just a short quote from Mr, Cherry Garrard.

"I for one had come to that point of suffering at which I did not really care if only I could die without much pain. They talk of the heroism of the dying – they little know – it would be so easy to die, a dose of morphia, a friendly crevasse, and blissful sleep. The trouble is to go on…"

Oh, and his teeth exploded from the cold.

I've seen gonads do that :eek::eek:

Billyboy, could you find another set of telegraphs to go with your avatar? I'm a bit worried that if you ring down Full Ahead on that one, we will end up going around in circles. I would be happier being able to ring for Full Ahead Both. Of course, if Tmac has commissioned a third engine and propeller shaft, we would have to ring down for Full Ahead Together.

Of course, you could always engage Iron Mike and let him apply massive amounts of corrective helm. Tmac is justly proud of the phenomenal SHP achieved by his machinery , so Full Ahead on one should still give us our 25 knot cruising speed, but only with the helm hard over. :thumb:

Well of course you would have to ring together. What sort of ship would it be if you were allowed to ring what you wanted on one and someone else rang what they wanted on another.

(Probably not much in steering with the telegraphs unless you have a rudder behind each prop).

Hang on Dartskipper. I will go below and photograph the Starboard telegraph for you ha ha.
I only put up the port one because i was alcoholically impaired (lazy)

Pray tell, what is a "hard-over"???????

Kind of like the difference between a light sleeper and a hard sleeper?? --- a light sleeper sleeps with a light on and a hard sleeper will sleep through anything!!

Silly me -- I was always under the impression that we had the latest in Azipods :p

[QUOTE=Red-17;2575]Thanx, Red, but the answer does remain the same! :kiss:

Azipods with Kort Nozzles no less Tom. Thats why she handles so easy. The tunnel for the aft thruster is now a Black Bush tank.

Does this mean I no longer have to heave on the steering oar? That is a big relief.

I have seen variable speed and variable pitch in all manner of steerable propulsors. None of them requiring a telegraph.

(And you can heave over the side. No privileges for the wheelhouse wallahs, risk the blow back like the rest of us).

I would love for you to explain the mysteries of the Golden Rivet to me Tmac, but I have been advised not venture into the shafting arrangements. :)

I am aware of Apsley Cherry-Gerrard's book but that doesn't mean that our adventure would end up like his, anyway what sort of a name is Cherry for an adventurer, I have a beautician called Cherry, (no comments please) Where's your sense of adventure Farmer John:confused:

[QUOTE=Tom Alexander;2652]Thanx Tom, please see reply from Tmac.:D

??? Wallahs? Varley you are usually so technical but this does not strike me as being a technical term!:huh:

Don't you just love it when I come in late on the conversation, send my thoughts and then I go to bed. :yawn: Goodnight chaps. PS. Now you can chatter away among yourselves

I'm so glad you cleared a hard over-up, all these years I thought it followed a hard-on. What a great site, I learn something new each day.

Has Pats come back with the stores yet, I was hoping for a few items I requested.

Ice Cream cones (Heavy duty)
Left handed corkscrew (motorised)
Bald man's comb (with polish applicator).
Trouser furling rig (with Spanish Windlass).

Anyone else expecting anything they dare reveal?

Well I don't know about incoming stores (heaven knows what's in the boxes I 'acquired') but,

On having a look though the deepest recesses of the booze locker I keep finding stuff, such as;

Some boxes with a broad arrow (Pusser's mark to you grey funnel chaps).
More boxes with words written on the top - 'Leap Frog Milk' - Looks very old.
Some cases which I though might be some palatable ales and seemed at first sight to be Craft Beer, but on closer inspection it actually said Kraft Beer...

Any ideas?

set of metric glass hammers
bucket of tartan paint
left handed spanner (Imperial to BSF thread)
open ended screwdriver (non ratchet)
replacement horizontal steam trap
lubricating gel for the Golden Rivet (jumbo size)

Dear lady, you know not what you seek...:eek::eek: I suggest you consult Pat's before you seek further enlightenment :chuckle:

You have no concept what booze is kept on the ship, the Booze locker is stocked up from my stores, and no-one has plumbed the depths of them, there is one wiggly corridor that opens up in the Brewery in Dublin, seemingly connected via a wormhole in the time continuum, one of many. Suffice it to say, we pay for very little and we have stocks of almost anything.

The Kraft Beer was a mistake, we only got it because we liked the way it came in triangular bottles covered in silver paper, but it tastes of very little and sticks to the roof of your mouth.

I've always wondered, with Tartan paint, do you have to use a different brush for each clan?

Red-17, my sense of adventure got left behind when we moved house for the 4th time in 18 months, about 20 years ago. I lost my elan and panache at the same time, but a happy find of Braggadocio has meant I can still talk big.

teletransporting ashore for a few hours. got a driving job to do.

Kraft beer -- made from Kraft Dinner -- Possibly from an Italian recipe for wheat beer, but noodles used to make the wort. It's the lack of hops that make it taste like gnats pee -- but as they say -------------- Any port in a storm! :pint:

Inasmuch as the GD is now a catamaran, I suggest those who want to adventure to the South Pole to plant the GD's house flag there use the port hull, while the others can stay in Invercargill. South Polites will only be gone a couple of days -- top speed to McMurdo Sound and then by "Whirly Bird" to the South Pole courtesy of SSR --- if he's around? :angry:

We will also need some rubber nails to go with the glass hammers. :D

best get a couple of fulsons pulminators too just in case. Oh and a jar of spirit level bubbles and a box of Navy cake for the stewards.

Remaining on the starboard section of the GD, I was able to photograph those of the crew departing for the South Pole. :curtain_call:

sarf powl!!! thats a number 24. mystery tour bus.

Hope that I didn't let the secret destination out of the bag. Glad that I'm not on board anyway. I prefer something a little less enclosed where I can jump ship more easily should the need arise.
Is that Red-17 at the helm by the way?
If it is let me hasten to add that that would in no way affect my views on escaping the vessel. Just not keen on submarines or sealed aircraft type structures in water. Nothing to do with ladies on footplates or fiddling with rolling stock.:wave:

Sir William, I regret we seem to have ordered two Pulsons Fulminators by mistake, but I think Tmac should be able to convert them.

Dear lady, an MV-22 Osprey is a tilt-rotor aircraft... much better to get in and out of trouble (and haul the butts of GD trouble makers out of.. can only carry one person on the Harrier, me, ye ol' flyboy) ... As for being the .50 gunner on the ramp.. an MV-22 has a ramp that people can run aboard, fleeing from whatever danger they get themselves into and that I have to bail them out ... and when they're not doing that.. I have someone sitting behind Ma Deuce.. shooting at anyone and anything (Just ask Tmac.. as I've ventilated the funnel many times)... :pint: