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Malcolm G 11th March 2025 13:46

My understanding was that an anchored vessel is a stationary object.
Major concern at the moment is the wildlife at Spurn head nature reserve.

Ozzie 12th March 2025 17:03

Not often I do, but I would like to add my 'two pennyworth' on the discussion board here.

On this point Malcolm, I believe 'ES' is fully correct, in marine insurance terms a ship at anchor is not a stationary object, ie whilst it is not 'underway', it is prone to movement, such as change of tide, wind etc. Hence this is a collision between two ships.

An allision is when a ship hits a completely fixed immoveable object, such as a jetty, wharf etc .

This latest disaster is a shocking case of 'not keeping a lookout' and nobody on the bridge,...it takes a certain level of 'incompetence' to collide, at full speed, with a large tanker at anchor directly in front of you, broadside on. !!

It would appear that the Captain was supposedly the one on watch!! He must have been down below, either drunk, sleeping or doing some other things beside doing the right thing of keeping the watch.

Regards

Jupiter71 13th March 2025 12:53

Collision or Allision? That is the question. Depends on who you refence. Appears the insurance companies and maritime websites say it was an Allision. Your everyday news media (Sun, Mirror etc.) say it was a collision. To be upfront, until the other day I had never heard of Allision. To me it was a coming together of two very large objects with potentially castastrophic consequencies. There are rumours abound it was deliberate, terrorist even. In view of the political uncertainties of today anything is possible, lets be upfront, I thought Trump would be good for the world, seems he threw the baby out with the bath water, certainly not making many friends rather alienating much of the world. To be honest I always thought politicians had to have a lobotomy once tgey were elected. I just find it incredulous you can't see a 30,000 ton vessel in broad daylight.

billyboy 13th March 2025 23:26

I have been on ships that had nothing bar a radio. everything depended on '' EYEBALLS''. Even in thick fog. Even on a Tug with a large floating crane 300 meters behind us (not even a radio on that one). (bit hairy passing Dover with it. (had give her a kick astern to lower the hawser for the cross channel steamers to pass)
Nowadays with all the electronic gadgetry available there seems to be more accidents then ever. there is nothing more reliable than Eyeballs at sea.

tweediekiwi 30th March 2025 22:47

Crewmates! I've missed you you. Talking of collisions, I've been dealing with problems around my grandson (28) who was t-boned on his motorbike by a lady in a car. Lucky to be alive, broken femur in two places, broken arm, smashed hand head injury - it happened on a rural gravel road so he's up for a few weeks of skin grafts then a long recovery. Being summer here, he had on the standard NZ farmer safety gear, shorts, t-shirt and gumboots - no helmet!! Bluddy kids. Anyway, you probably didn't want to hear all that, but if any of you hairy seafaring men have any tips about helping out someone who's recuperating from this type of event, I'm all ears, which looks rather funny, but at least I get the message. Sorry to hear about the Humber incident - it wasn't in the news down here. I didn't know about allision either and it seems like every time time come aboard the GD I learn something new. You all stay safe and happy.

billyboy 31st March 2025 23:06

nice to see Tweediekiwi back on watch again. everyone else seems to be turned in. 2 cutouts up on Bridge watch and a Rat and a Ferret running things down below. and plastic stewards running the crew bar. looks like they are getting a bit Piscatorial. have to reign them in a bit.

YM-Mundrabilla 1st April 2025 00:06

There is no room for 'piscatorial' aboard the GD we are not a fishing vessel! (Having looked up the meaning).

Sorry to hear about Tweediekiwi's grandson. Hope that he makes a full recovery sooner rather than later.

Cut outs on the bridge seems a problem beyond the GD these days.

tweediekiwi 1st April 2025 00:30

Thanks for the kind wishes YM. He'll be right in about 5 or 6 months after skingrafts and physio is completed. At least he's proved that he's not 20 feet tall and bulletproof or "The man they couldn't shoot, root or electrocute" Much calmer life for him from now on. So, I can do a watch on the bridge if you like, polish the brass whilst I'm there and see where the hell we are. Piscatorial eh? Drunk and smells like fish? All the Best Shipmates.

Engine Serang 1st April 2025 07:08

Top Gear did a show about a car racing against a catamaran set in New Zeland. Most entertaining show but my takeaway was the prevalence of dirt and gravel roads in NZ, asphalt and concrete played a cameo role.
Little wonder All Black rugger players would give their right arm to get a club in UK or Ireland.

tweediekiwi 1st April 2025 09:22

Yes and we get the world rally champs every 4 years or so. They from Cape Reinga in the North to Bluff in the south, mostly on gravel roads, but venture onto the highway for short heavily policed sections. How's the ship going? Very quiet up here on the bridge, just me and my brasso, and very dark outside. Unless someone has blindfolded me ...

Varley 1st April 2025 09:45

Sir W showing us the length of his teeth. Even with just a radio you could have used Consol.

Sorry to hear of the damaged relative. If he cannot grin and bear-it suggest he tries gin and bear-it.

Don't quite get the racing against a catamaran, wouldn't the underkeel asphalt clearance be a disadvantage? (Not that we are unfamiliar with NZ asphalt. Grandpa was down there with the Neuchatel Bituminous Rock company in the early 1900s relieving the worthies of Wellington in exchange for road-metal).

billyboy 1st April 2025 12:37

no good asking me where we are. I am recovering from a rather advanced stage of inebriation. Have a look at that Map thingy on the table behind you. that should give us a clue.

Malcolm G 1st April 2025 20:17

A past aquaintance who was a biker went on a camping trip with mates.
At site he decided to pop to the shops. Only a short ride, no point in dressing up.
Gravel track, dropped the bike and had the type of gravel rash that needs forceps to remove.
Considerate mates just pointed out that it would have been quicker to walk and someone else had to go and get the milk.
In his case nothing broken and he was able to, painfully, ride the bike back home.

Anyway: All best wishes to our Kiwi friends.

Varley 2nd April 2025 09:12

Sadly, on veterinary advice and observation, I am about to lose both chief and deputy pussycats in the same week. I had been contemplating the recruitment of an assistant deputy but hadn't done anything more. So much for redundancy.

rustytrawler 2nd April 2025 13:06

sorry to hear that Varley it is always sad to lose a friend. Did they have a tail?

Malcolm G 2nd April 2025 13:13

Two in one week - very sad.
Are there others available to step up to Boss-cat?

Varley 2nd April 2025 17:11

No, they were with tails. Conceived and born within a metre of my bed-head 15 years ago so I can hardly complain. But, as you say, sad. Chief (Nabpcat) stopped hunting a year or so ago - that had an upside, especially if the sound of rodent skulls being munched under the bed keeps one awake. His sister (Abpcat) was always more lady-like. Their sire, when not attempting incest, was otherwise the perfect gentleman. Came in one evening, refused food, sat with head on bottom step of the stairs and with a soft thump twenty minutes later dropped dead.

billyboy 2nd April 2025 21:13

condolences Mr Varley on your loss.

Varley 3rd April 2025 14:28

They haven't quite gone yet. I am engaged in cooking those human dishes which they thieved the most in the hope they will eat something. I won't continue once they become fretting.

tweediekiwi 4th April 2025 23:03

Well, we went to Wellington yesterday, in the pouring rain, to visit my battered and broken grandson. I've never seen a man in so much pain. Nothing to do with his accident injuries but because of the skin-graft procedure. They'd shave a slice off his right thigh, 4" by 12", to get enough to fix left hand foot and knee, which had a femur stuck through it the other day. All his pain was from there. He still has his sense of humour which I think he's going to need. Varley, I'm sorry to hear about your pussy issues. Deepest Condolences. It's been about 15 years since the local plumber drove over our last cat and I don't miss the headless mice being left by the back door, at all. The sun must be over the yard arm somewhere guys - drink up!

Engine Serang 14th April 2025 06:51

Great day to be from Northern Ireland. Rory McIllroy is the Master.

YM-Mundrabilla 14th April 2025 09:51

Only $21 million. US I assume.

tweediekiwi 15th April 2025 00:56

I've wandered about this ship for days,
Stuck in an alcoholic haze,
Constant sunshine it would seem,
Is this all there is to The Golden Dream?

Anon.

Engine Serang 15th April 2025 07:14

And its taken you 3 years to work that one out!

Perhaps you've played too much rugby without a helmet.

Relax and enjoy the Easter break with family and friends, eat plenty of Hot Cross Buns, keep the "Alcoholic Haze" topped up and all will be tickety-boo as we approach the merry month of May.

ps, attempt a Sonnet the next time and don't ignore the iambic pentameter.

Happy Easter.

YM-Mundrabilla 15th April 2025 07:26

No haze here, alcoholic or otherwise.
Ashore here in Melbourne - 24° C sunshine, clear sky, no wind. Perfect Autumn day except for scraping and painting 'wrought iron' balustrade around the verandah.
Dulux colour 'Carmen Miranda' reminds me of red lead! :curtain_call:

Varley 15th April 2025 13:39

Fear not. Iambic pentameters show up on both X and S band radars but are not usually seen in temperate zones unless in months with a 'z'. So we shouldn't need to deploy the degaussing kit until Auguzt or Zeptember.

No alcohol in Melbourne? Must be almost as good a run ashore as bloody Dampier.

billyboy 15th April 2025 23:01

where are we? someones rubbed out the pencil lines on the Map thingy. Tried asking ECDIS...it told me to mind my own business!
Crews bar open lads. Zteward! snacks to the crew bar please.

tweediekiwi 16th April 2025 06:08

Gods Nipples! I have been on board this for 3 years? It's so much fun that it feels like weeks.
I never played rugby. I played hockey, cricket and badminton and never wore a helmet ever.
Next sonnet I produce will be rimed (see what I did there?) with alliteration, allision, and metric micrometers if you wish.
BB! The cutouts must have defaced the chart! They were playing with a rubber up there yesterday.

Engine Serang 20th April 2025 08:36

Happy Easter to one and all.

Programme on tv last night about the construction of the Titanic, taped it and will watch it today. I hope Tmax (of this parish) is in it as he is the voice of authority. Every dogsarse in the shipping world feels he has a God Given right to spew out nonsense about the Titanic. I despise them.

YM-Mundrabilla 20th April 2025 09:17

Yes, Best Wishes to All for Easter this weekend and for ANZAC Day next Friday. It's a short week for those who are working.

There is a Titanic Virtual Reality thingy on in Melbourne at the moment:

https://titanicexperiencevr.com/melb...SAAEgLTE_D_BwE

Don't think that I will bother .........................

Has it been on anywhere else? Anyone seen it?

Jupiter71 20th April 2025 16:09

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Originally Posted by Engine Serang (Post 54458)
Happy Easter to one and all.

Programme on tv last night about the construction of the Titanic, taped it and will watch it today. I hope Tmax (of this parish) is in it as he is the voice of authority. Every dogsarse in the shipping world feels he has a God Given right to spew out nonsense about the Titanic. I despise them.


There has been numerous "theory's" on the sinking of the Titanic from boiler room fires, poor quality materials, sectarian conflicts between the shipyard workers to actually switching the Titanic with the Olympic[?] which damaged her back after a collision. Belfast is proud of the Titanic and also humerous. There are numerous memorials from Belfast to Halifax, Nova Scotia but probably the strangest is that of Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rodwilkinson/3779402071/

There is a T-shirt on sale in Belfast saying Titanic - Built by Irishmen, Sunk by an Englishman.

billyboy 29th April 2025 09:34

Hmmm ... thats strange! we appear to be heading into the Medi at 15 knots. ETA Piraus 08:30 Thursday morning according to ECDIS. will go alongside for fuel and provisions and a short run ashore while we decide where to go next.

YM-Mundrabilla 29th April 2025 09:54

Your wish is our command BB.:wave:
Is your bike aboard? Time for a quick trip?

Malcolm G 29th April 2025 10:42

Last time I was in Piraeus I was playing at spotting the old UK ferry. I wonder if there are any left.

Varley 29th April 2025 15:16

We can't leave her on shore power. There isn't any.

(I say chaps anyone else see a marketing opportunity ? I'll get the lad to see what there is by way of extension cord. I suppose we might be had for trading on the black market).

Sir W will be alright ashore (knight vision). By the by I thought he was our owner not just chief of the lookouts.

billyboy 30th April 2025 03:08

Steward! taker this case of Old Tawney up to Mr Varley please with my compliments. after that a case of Jamiesons to the engine control room.I am off for a walk round the deck to see if theres any flying fish for lunch.

tweediekiwi 30th April 2025 09:21

I've seen flying fish from the deck of the TSS Northern Star, a long time ago now, but I've never eaten one. Are they nice?
I think we should all chip in to get some pussy for Varley. Anyone in favour of that?
I've just finished reading Alistair Maclean's Santorini. Whilst in the Med, can we go and see it?
A mate has just got a job making chessmen. He's on knights this week.

YM-Mundrabilla 30th April 2025 10:12

Knights were always good - free days to yourself....................

billyboy 30th April 2025 11:46

Thank you for your kind words Mr Varley. Stewards on his way toi you with a case of old Tawney.


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