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lakercapt 30th June 2019 21:50

The Rolling Stones
 
Yesterday at a location a few KM from where I live there was a big event which featured the OLD group The Rolling Stones. The tickets for this event went on sale months ago and to no one's surprise the sold out in minutes. When I heard what these tickets cost I had to wonder at the people that spent from $200 to $1200 for the privilege(!) of going to see these old-timers perform. The thing is that except for the expensive ones it was to stand in a big field.
Our township of Oro-Medonte was certainly put on the map as this was their only Canadian show. Course our wonderful (?) Mayor had to get in his dibs and welcome them. The traffic around here was backed up for miles as fans came from far and wide and it was said 70,000 attended.
I was not one of them as I would not walk to the end of my driveway to see them.

Engine Serang 30th June 2019 22:09

Cant be ar$ed to comment.

Tom Alexander 1st July 2019 06:03

I hold the dubious privilege of having attended the same school as Mick. As near as I can figure I was in the Fifth form when he was in the First. (Dartford Grammar School 1953?)

Varley 1st July 2019 09:59

Older than Mick but still breathing, Tom? Must be a healthy place that Dartford.

BobClay 1st July 2019 14:04

Being a teenager of the sixties all I can say the music then was about a trillion to the power of a trillion times better than most of the crap they put out today.

And if anything … it's got better with age.:supercool:

(I can't help but get the feeling there are some Mods in here … :big_tongue: … or even worse … Boy George fans. :eek: )

Dave McGouldrick 1st July 2019 16:21

would anyone actually admit to being a Boy George fan?

Dartskipper 1st July 2019 19:30

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Originally Posted by Dave McGouldrick (Post 23839)
would anyone actually admit to being a Boy George fan?

My late Dad was, and look where it got him!

Engine Serang 1st July 2019 19:32

Bought my first LP in 1965, Rolling Stones No.2, from McIllroy's Shop in Larne. No pansies in East Antrim.

Tom Alexander 2nd July 2019 06:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varley (Post 23836)
Older than Mick but still breathing, Tom? Must be a healthy place that Dartford.

Probably had nothing to do with the fact that Dartford Grammar School for Girls was just around the corner, and their school field was adjacent to ours. Our cricket nets backed onto their field and it was quite common for a lazy bowler to lob a ball so that it could be lifted over the top of the netting by the batsman, eliciting a mass demonstration of fence vaulting ability onto a grass hockey field (to retrieve the ball) with the girls playing with their tunics tucked into the bottoms of their knickers. (For some reason their head mistress took right proper umbrage at this activity !!) :supercool:

Alan Gamblin 8th July 2019 09:33

I saw the Stones at Wembley in June 1982. Cost of the ticket was £10.80 - still got it! I thought that whilst they were good they were also passed their best.


Kind regards
Alan G

jg grant 20th August 2019 02:28

I bought Dark side of the moon in the seventies and left it on the back parcel rack while I went on the sauce in the Occy Auckland. Car in Queen St on a hot summer day and when I got home and played it I thought I'd been smoking something.

BobClay 20th August 2019 08:41

I bought that on a cassette. I was driving a 'Del Boy' Reliant Regal van at that time (only had a bike licence) and I popped it into the player and drove off. One of the tracks starts will all kinds of ticking and knocking noises and I had a serious sweat on because I thought the noises were coming from the engine. :eek: (The stereo was a cheapo one, but had no trouble filling a Reliant with sound. :sweat:)

Was I ever glad when Floyd's guitars suddenly burst out of the speakers !!! :shock:

Farmer John 20th August 2019 10:02

I was giving a friend a lift and the tape was playing "Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis. I was calmly assured that he would kill me if I didn't take it off.

BobClay 20th August 2019 11:23

I think I know that feeling. I had family down at the weekend and I took them down to Tintagel to see the new footbridge they've just opened. The driver (my cousin's husband) has a Satnav with Homer Simpson's voice as the annunciator.

You can't begin to imagine the things I wanted to do to that Satnav ten minutes into the journey. :cloud:

Farmer John 20th August 2019 16:42

Following a Satnav is now part of the driving test. This is after they have removed tuning the radio and peeling an Orange!

Powers 20th August 2019 22:52

In July 1969 having made a date to meet a young lady in a quiet corner of London's Hyde Park I arrived at the designated spot to find that over a quarter of a million others had turned up for a Rolling Stones concert and the whole area was a heaving mass of humanity. After cursing my luck (and Jagger and co) I started to search for my latest flame clambering over a wide assortment of washed and unwashed 1960's youth! Eventually, against expectation and very much to my surprise, I came across her looking totally bewildered under one of the few remaining unoccupied trees. After coming to terms with the unexpected situation we decided to stay and watch the show even though we were not RS fans. I think we both enjoyed it but this may have had something to do with the fact that it was absolutely free! A very cheap first date for me!

Regards...Paul

SJB 23rd September 2020 16:27

When I did my stint in the Norwegian army, the hit of the year was "Mammy Blue", and that tune and others like it was played continuously on the canteen jukebox. A friend of mine and I used to scrape together enough Norwegian crowns to have the stones repeat "Brown Sugar" often enough to let us drink a cup of coffee and inhale a self rolled nicotine stick in some semblance of spiritual peace. So given that our weekly pay was merely 8 Crowns (about one GB Pound) I can say that I have paid dearly for the music of the Stones as well.

John Rogers 23rd September 2020 17:31

Here you go Mr S.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...A1%26PC%3dU531

SJB 23rd September 2020 20:13

Thanks, but no thanks, I have heard that song a number of times too often... I remember a spy movie where the Russian baddies tortured the hero by playing "My boy Lollipop" with Millie over and over again. I would take Millie over Roger Whittaker any time.

Makko 23rd September 2020 23:35

Never a fan of the Stones. More alternative for me and now, electronic: Hardwell, Sander Van Doorn, etc. I think the freedom that they enjoy (no record label or own RL) is a plus.

Two entertainers that I would encourage mebers to stump up the cold, hard cash for are Tony Bennett and Barry Manilow - Real showmen! I haven't been to a concert in years but those two are really worth every penny!

Now, Boy George, Don't think so!

Real music died in the eighties, at a stretch, the early nineties. Pure crap commercially nowadays, apart from the techno scene which is very innovative.

I await an ME109 on my "six" very soon!

Rgds.
Dave

John Rogers 24th September 2020 00:50

I just finished playing a CD of JULIO, what a great voice.

Makko 24th September 2020 01:06

Is that Julio Iglesias, Uncle John? Sings in 180 languages and is unintelligible in any!!!
Rgds.
Nephew Dave.

SJB 24th September 2020 01:53

I got the "Tango" CD by Iglesias (senior) with the lyrics, and I can easily follow him with the Argentinian words written, so while knowing faint little Spanish, I still will claim that he is intelligible. He is mainly for the ladies though, quite a buttery voice.

John Rogers 24th September 2020 03:00

I like two songs of his, Hey, and To All The Girls I Loved Before, with Willie Nelson. He is rated as the 5th greatest artist in the world, worth millions and sings in five languages. Lots of women in his bed and about 4 or six kids, Known that is. But my favorite is or was Al Martino.

R58484957 24th September 2020 09:00

Mammy Blues. First time I have heard it, but much better than the trash we hear today.

Varley 24th September 2020 13:09

I remember Mammy Blue from a bar in my first trip and first visit to Rotterdam (Texaco Denmark). Not sure the Stones were the original artistes. It remains one of the few bits of modern music that I can appreciate.

(I also remember a junior engineer escaping the wrath of the taxi driver by throwing up out of the window on the way back).

Engine Serang 24th September 2020 13:31

Makes me proud to be a Texaco man.
PS. Don't be a music snob. You're still too young to listen to music that never breaks into a tune.
Manuel and his Music of the Mountains should be your goal.

Makko 24th September 2020 14:21

Re Julio Iglesias - It is an old Mexican joke!
Rgds.
Dave

SJB 24th September 2020 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varley (Post 32990)
I remember Not sure the Stones were the original artistes. It remains one of the few bits of modern mammy Blue from a bar in my first trip and first visit to Rotterdam (Texaco Denmark). Music that I can appreciate..

The point was that Mammy Blue was something that two of us felt you needed the Stones harshly doing their thing to eradicate. Though listening to the eradication-means, "Brown Sugar", today I do not think the Stones were worth the jukebox cost.

Btw, the left leaning newspaper (Dagbladet) that I read in my youth had two charts, one for Pop, where the Beatles was listed, and one for Rock where the Stones figured among a lot of Afro-american musicians. (In the pop charts there were only Whites.) The roots to American blues were somewhat sanctifying to the people who were religious about popular music. Beatles and ABBA, and especially the Monkeys, were considered purely commercial and so dishonest. Later on, after the Disco craze, Bob Marley would receive the same accolades, for playing directly from the heart and the soul and a superior insight the meaning of life.

I myself have doubts about all religious attitudes to music. I once heard two old Jewish ladies who had survived a death camp wonder how the camp commander could be so cruel - when he had such a sensitive ear for the great composers! (They could hear his record player through an open window in his office,)

Varley 24th September 2020 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine Serang (Post 32992)
Makes me proud to be a Texaco man.
PS. Don't be a music snob. You're still too young to listen to music that never breaks into a tune.
Manuel and his Music of the Mountains should be your goal.

My parents would have agreed with you E-S. Ma was good at the Charleston and Black Bottom (presumably those matter too) and bar the Entrance of the Queen of Sheba (presumably a black front bottom) and renditions of "In the Black Whale in Ashkalon", (where a man drank for forty nights until he lay as stiff as a board beside the kitchen table) in German, he aspired to modern art-noise.

I suppose I simply don't like music. Not possible in macro terms but with the majority of music being in the distant passed I suppose it is natural that there are more of those fewer favourites in past canons than in current ones. There are a few exceptions (just to prove that I am not doing it out of pure snobbery) but rarely genres, just odd 'tracks' (see? I even know some of the jargon).

John Rogers 24th September 2020 16:21

Here is a song for our Norwegian friend since he loves Tangos. Cant beat this one, Good looking French gal singing a Spanish song in German.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...CDC30BF2870A41

Engine Serang 24th September 2020 16:49

Helen Shapiro.

SJB 24th September 2020 16:59

The Germans voted for the greatest popular tune of all time a couple of years back, and "La Paloma" won by a good margin. But the Germans preferred it sung by their own Freddy Quinn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L45Fqntq8JY Forever popular in Germany, and more tango like, is "Die Capri Fischer." Recently sung by Max Raabe, an openly gay performer who generally spoofs all the classics he performs (a perfect example is his version of Tom Jones' "Sex Bomb" where his non-passionate "oh-ah" grunts is in stark contrast with the text. Capri fischer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqiHMEZgUw
As for the Argentinian tango, the Argentinians swear by their legendary Carlos Gardel, and accepts no real competition. It is the old Carlos Gardel hits that Iglesias sings, like the well known "Adios Pampa Mia", and "A Media Luz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnL3GzCNLrY Luz: ] Carlos Gardel : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr4-J6l11Ashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnL3GzCNLrY

John Rogers 24th September 2020 17:50

Freddy Quinn is or was a fine singer, I bought a LP of his many moons ago, he sings about St. Pauli in Hamburg, I think it was called Sailor, I still have it stored along with many old LP records. Yes Freddy sang La Paloma very well with the passion of the tango. I will check out Carlos when I have finished posting. Due to my two new knee joints my tango dancing is over.

Varley 24th September 2020 18:15

Pa would have done better (louder, anyway).

Varley 24th September 2020 18:18

#33.

Horrified "Im schwarzen Walfisch zu Askalon" didn't make the cut.

Farmer John 24th September 2020 21:34

Abba? Not quite (this is a very poor recording).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9KozW8O9U

SJB 24th September 2020 23:29

Really not bad, I quite liked parts of it, might well like it better on a second hearing, and I will accept a connection to Zappa, but what the connection to Abba is I have no idea. If I should suggest some music on the base of that, it would have to be Birelli Lagrene. It is to late to search for something on the internet with his guitar play, but he is available there for sure.

On second thought, I think I will forego the Gipsy Jazz Guitar of Birelli Lagrene, for something you are unlikely to have heard. Finnish Jukka Tolonen is never mentioned among the rock guitar virtuoses in English listings of such, but he was good. That is until he shot his wife and found Jesus thereby. Maybe the language is insurmountable - the name of his first band, Tasavallan Presidentti, is not what an ad-man would call saleable. I do not know what I have found here, but it might be worth listening to anyway, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqhoEzyIv_0

Here is Lagrene anyway, sounding very much like Django at times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUTzpm0feC0

Going far away from the theme of expensive Stones tickets, this is what I have been playing when driving lately - Boogaloo Joe Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3z_e02ggk0 I was sitting in my parked car with outside the local dentists office, with the side windows down and Boogaloo going at full blast. Waiting for a lull before turning him off. A lady stepped out of her car beside me, and walking up the stairs outside the building showed some uncontrollable gyrations as directed by this guitarist. Somethings gotta move when he gets into it. Here with an organist not far behind Jimmy Smith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VujyqfIx6jI

Jolly Jack 26th September 2020 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJB (Post 33002)
The Germans voted for the greatest popular tune of all time a couple of years back, and "La Paloma" won by a good margin. But the Germans preferred it sung by their own Freddy Quinn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L45Fqntq8JY Forever popular in Germany, and more tango like, is "Die Capri Fischer." Recently sung by Max Raabe, an openly gay performer who generally spoofs all the classics he performs (a perfect example is his version of Tom Jones' "Sex Bomb" where his non-passionate "oh-ah" grunts is in stark contrast with the text. Capri fischer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqiHMEZgUw
As for the Argentinian tango, the Argentinians swear by their legendary Carlos Gardel, and accepts no real competition. It is the old Carlos Gardel hits that Iglesias sings, like the well known "Adios Pampa Mia", and "A Media Luz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnL3GzCNLrY Luz: ] Carlos Gardel : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr4-J6l11Ashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnL3GzCNLrY

Svein, La Paloma was the very first tune my guitar teacher taught me back in 1958. When I joined the Medway Saints(!) Skiffle Group the following year, we included it as an instrumental in our - dare I say...."repertoire"....

ES, I liked Helen Shapiro - a strong voice and not-bad songs in the day.

JJ.

Jolly Jack 26th September 2020 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJB (Post 33015)
Really not bad, I quite liked parts of it, might well like it better on a second hearing, and I will accept a connection to Zappa, but what the connection to Abba is I have no idea. If I should suggest some music on the base of that, it would have to be Birelli Lagrene. It is to late to search for something on the internet with his guitar play, but he is available there for sure.

On second thought, I think I will forego the Gipsy Jazz Guitar of Birelli Lagrene, for something you are unlikely to have heard. Finnish Jukka Tolonen is never mentioned among the rock guitar virtuoses in English listings of such, but he was good. That is until he shot his wife and found Jesus thereby. Maybe the language is insurmountable - the name of his first band, Tasavallan Presidentti, is not what an ad-man would call saleable. I do not know what I have found here, but it might be worth listening to anyway, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqhoEzyIv_0

Here is Lagrene anyway, sounding very much like Django at times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUTzpm0feC0

Going far away from the theme of expensive Stones tickets, this is what I have been playing when driving lately - Boogaloo Joe Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3z_e02ggk0 I was sitting in my parked car with outside the local dentists office, with the side windows down and Boogaloo going at full blast. Waiting for a lull before turning him off. A lady stepped out of her car beside me, and walking up the stairs outside the building showed some uncontrollable gyrations as directed by this guitarist. Somethings gotta move when he gets into it. Here with an organist not far behind Jimmy Smith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VujyqfIx6jI

Thanks for that, Svein. I've never heard of Lagrene but I enjoyed his playing - I wish my fingers would move like that these days.......

JJ.


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