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erimus 30th November 2017 19:50

Brexit again............
 
Sums it up !!

Mr David Davis is at the golf club returning his locker key when Mr Barnier, the membership secretary sees him.

"Hello Mr Davis", says Mr Barnier. "I'm sorry to hear you are no longer renewing your club membership,if you would like to come to my office we can settle your account".

"I have settled my bar bill" says Mr Davis..

"Ah yes Mr Davis",says Mr Barnier, "but there are other matters that need settlement"

In Mr Barniers office Mr Davis explains that he has settled his bar bill so wonders what else he can possibly owe the Golf Club?

"Well Mr Davis" begins Mr Barnier, "you did agree to buy one of our Club Jackets".

"Yes" agrees Mr Davis "I did agree to buy a jacket but I haven't received it yet". "As soon as you supply the jacket I will send you a cheque for the full amount".

"That will not be possible" explains Mr Barnier. "As you are no longer a club member you will not be entitled to buy one of our jackets"!

"But you still want me to pay for it" exclaims Mr Davis.

"Yes" says Mr Barnier, "That will be £500 for the jacket. "There is also your bar bill".

"But I've already settled my bar bill" says Mr Davis.

"Yes" says Mr Barnier, "but as you can appreciate, we need to place our orders from the Brewery in advance to ensure our bar is properly stocked".. "You regularly used to spend at least £50 a week in the bar so we have placed orders with the brewery accordingly for the coming year". "You therefore owe us £2600 for the year".

"Will you still allow me to have these drinks?" asks Mr Davis.

"No of course not Mr Davis". "You are no longer a club member!" says Mr Barnier. "Next is your restaurant bill" continues Mr Barnier. "In the same manner we have to make arrangements in advance with our catering suppliers". "Your average restaurant bill was in the order of £300 a month, so we'll require payment of £3600 for the next year".

"I don't suppose you'll be letting me have these meals either" asks Mr Davis.

"No, of course not" says an irritated Mr Barnier, "you are no longer a club member!"

"Then of course" Mr Barnier continues, "there are repairs to the clubhouse roof".

"Clubhouse roof" exclaims Mr Davis, "What's that got to do with me?"

"Well it still needs to be repaired and the builders are coming in next week", your share of the bill is £2000".

"I see" says Mr Davis, "anything else?".

"Now you mention it" says Mr Barnier, "there is Fred the Barman's pension". "We would like you to pay £5 a week towards Fred's pension when he retires next month". "He's not well you know so I doubt we'll need to ask you for payment for longer than about five years, so £1300 should do it". "This brings your total bill to £10,000" says Mr Barnier.

"Let me get this straight" says Mr Davis, "you want me to pay £500 for a jacket you won't let me have, £2600 for beverages you won't let me drink and £3600 for food you won't let me eat, all under a roof I won't be allowed under and not served by a bloke who's going to retire next month!"

"Yes, it's all perfectly clear and quite reasonable" says Mr Barnier.

"P… off!" says Mr Davis

Now we understand what Brexit is all about!!!!!

geoff

Malcolm G 1st December 2017 16:19

Very nice analogy.
The word divorce seems to used as well - Perhaps the voters should have been told that we would be required to pay alimony.

ART6 1st December 2017 16:56

Excellent post! :applause::applause:

Dartskipper 1st December 2017 21:59

I see that Mr Bernier didn't mention the "Open Border" between the 18th Green and the Clubhouse.........:chuckle:

Naytikos 4th December 2017 16:24

I have been wondering why the UK should be under any obligation to pay anything at all to get out of the EU; now, thanks to Erimus, I'm beginning to get the idea.


Having effectively decamped from the UK precisely because of the Common Market (as it was then called), I have no right to comment at all except in respect of any potential ramifications for the Overseas Territories. However I would not wish to see my remaining friends and relations saddled with a debt burden to support Brussels bureaucracy for years to come; in fact since VAT was imposed purely to fund payments into the EEC, once out it must surely be abolished leading to dramatic reductions in the cost of living and consequent enhancement of the economy.

Dartskipper 4th December 2017 22:19

I don't think that our Department of the Treasury would be willing to revoke a tax that pulls in an extra 20% on every single transaction. I bet they still collect it, even though the revenue won't be sent to Brussels. The EU are trying to get us to help soften the blow to their income when our contributions cease. They never thought we would vote to leave.

ceylon220 14th December 2017 14:43

Confused! why are we paying billions to exit the EU, cannot remember paying large amounts to join the EU or is this "Barmy Britain"--another soft touch ---we managed to survive before Ted Heath got us to join leaving our trade partners Australia and New Zealand to find trade elsewhere --to me this exit from Europe is a bloody rip off, why not tell them to bugg-r off and go it alone-- put the GREAT back into Britain.

Quintero 15th July 2018 22:52

Thank you Erimus! I now understand, a lot better, the problems Mrs May has.
cheers

Tomvart 16th July 2018 01:46

Outstanding post...still LMAO!
What a mess we have gotten ourselves into!

Harlequin 16th July 2018 10:50

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Originally Posted by Tomvart (Post 16068)
Outstanding post...still LMAO!
What a mess we have gotten ourselves into!

We haven't, the politicians have.

BobClay 16th July 2018 11:01

Brexit !!! ….. what's that ??? :big_tongue:

James_C 16th July 2018 11:21

A better analogy as to current events would be Mrs May (Davis has gone of course) arriving at said golf club and insisting on using all the facilities but not wanting to pay anything.

lakercapt 16th July 2018 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceylon220 (Post 10131)
Confused! why are we paying billions to exit the EU, cannot remember paying large amounts to join the EU or is this "Barmy Britain"--another soft touch ---we managed to survive before Ted Heath got us to join leaving our trade partners Australia and New Zealand to find trade elsewhere --to me this exit from Europe is a bloody rip off, why not tell them to bugg-r off and go it alone-- put the GREAT back into Britain.

These markets now have got other countries taking their products and produce and that will not change. The setiments you have are similar to POTUS and not chance of succeeding!!!

Harry Nicholson 16th July 2018 14:34

Juncker seems to be having a great time:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/676566...nk-on-the-job/

Ron Stringer 16th July 2018 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobClay (Post 16079)
Brexit !!! ….. what's that ??? :big_tongue:

Brexit means ... er ... er ... er - ask the Prime Minister, I think she has an answer

Ron Stringer 16th July 2018 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Nicholson (Post 16092)
Juncker seems to be having a great time:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/676566...nk-on-the-job/


Well the others are laughing so it wouldn't appear that he was ill; maybe the Sun has got something right for once.

Tomvart 16th July 2018 16:06

According to the Beeb, he has sciatica - the 'half cut' story appeals more though!

Tomvart 16th July 2018 16:24

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Originally Posted by Harlequin (Post 16077)
We haven't, the politicians have.

You might find that WE have played a part in this laughable fiasco too, as poorly bounded as it was - the referendum didn't just involve the politicians?

Everything after that - we can lay the blame squarely on our feckless politicians (of all parties).

Although I voted to remain in the referendum (for business reasons), I am now all for getting out and making a clean cut, after all - we joined the EEC, not a federal Europe with its strings being pulled from Berlin.

Perhaps DeGaulle had a point when he refused the UK access to the EEC in 1967!

Engine Serang 16th July 2018 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceylon220 (Post 10131)
Put the GREAT back into Britain.



What are your top ten items, great items, that you know will help in making Britain GREAT again?
I myself am struggling to come up with five.
It's good news to see that you have invaded Sri Lanka and brought the locals to their senses and persuaded them to revert to Ceylon, where the tea comes from. Lets all march on Kolkata and Nyasaland. Shaw Savill will be delighted to hear from you.

Tomvart 16th July 2018 16:37

@#19. To be fair - I think Ceylon220's avatar is in reference to the cruiser HMS Ceylon, which was one of his favourite ships - I dont think he had plans on invading Sri Lanka!

Harlequin 16th July 2018 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomvart (Post 16096)
You might find that WE have played a part in this laughable fiasco too, as poorly bounded as it was - the referendum didn't just involve the politicians?

Everything after that - we can lay the blame squarely on our feckless politicians (of all parties).

Although I voted to remain in the referendum (for business reasons), I am now all for getting out and making a clean cut, after all - we joined the EEC, not a federal Europe with its strings being pulled from Berlin.

Perhaps DeGaulle had a point when he refused the UK access to the EEC in 1967!

Parliament (politicians) agreed overwhelmingly to offer the electorate a referendum on our EU status. Remain or leave was the choice, I (we) merely voted on the merits. So although I agree with almost all of your points, I still maintain that the politicians are the ones solely responsible for the mess we're in. We, the great unwashed merely exercised our democratic right to vote.
So without wanting to personalise this debate, the question I'd really like to ask you is,what part did I (we) play in this present sorry situation? Apart from voting against what the establishment wanted and expected.

Tomvart 16th July 2018 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harlequin (Post 16112)
Parliament (politicians) agreed overwhelmingly to offer the electorate a referendum on our EU status. Remain or leave was the choice, I (we) merely voted on the merits. So although I agree with almost all of your points, I still maintain that the politicians are the ones solely responsible for the mess we're in. We, the great unwashed merely exercised our democratic right to vote.
So without wanting to personalise this debate, the question I'd really like to ask you is,what part did I (we) play in this present sorry situation? Apart from voting against what the establishment wanted and expected.

I absolutely dont want to personalise this debate either Harlequin and I take your point - and agree that other than voting one way or 'tother, we didn't play a huge part - nevertheless we did play a (small) part in the whole process.

Consider it this way - if the vote had of gone the other way, the nation would not be tearing itself apart under a weak leadership - and we would not be having this debate.

Dartskipper 16th July 2018 21:06

Who was it who said "If you are afraid of the answer, don't ask the question?"

Mr Cameron should have thought a bit harder about how he was going to deal with the answer he didn't want. That he hadn't, became clear the following morning.

Tomvart 16th July 2018 21:08

Hear Hear :applause::applause::applause:

BobClay 28th March 2019 19:13

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Somehow the plot has got reversed ….:big_tongue:

Dartskipper 28th March 2019 21:24

The sands of time are running out while the MP's indulge in monkey business. :really_mad:

erimus 31st March 2019 16:27

Nice to see we have some friends in Europe:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Ic...R1wFXCMmGOs69g

geoff

garryNorton 31st March 2019 18:56

It is good to see some sense spoken by Brussels lets have a cooling off period.

Dartskipper 1st April 2019 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by erimus (Post 22523)
Nice to see we have some friends in Europe:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Ic...R1wFXCMmGOs69g

geoff

I have to agree with her remarks, she can clearly tell the difference between the wood and the trees.

Thanks for posting, Geoff.

Varley 2nd April 2019 00:16

But I am not sure you can Dartskipper. She clearly used the circumstances to promote German national interest. But, then, not everything that came from the Reich was wrong. Fortunately what was and is wrong is easily distinguished from the right.

Tom Alexander 2nd April 2019 07:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varley (Post 22546)
But I am not sure you can Dartskipper. She clearly used the circumstances to promote German national interest. But, then, not everything that cam from the Reich was wrong. Flortunately what was and is wrong is easily distinguished from the right.

Is that the right which is right, or the left that is wrong?? Politically speaking, of course. :cloud:

BobClay 2nd April 2019 09:37

If we are cuddling up to the German right, we clearly haven't learned much over the last century.

erimus 2nd April 2019 09:43

Bob,they cannot help us anyway....seems we cannot help ourselves either.

geoff

Varley 2nd April 2019 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Alexander (Post 22547)
Is that the right which is right, or the left that is wrong?? Politically speaking, of course. :cloud:

Politics is a different thing and those who choose that calling as a profession probably cannot tell the difference. Encouraging the genetically damaged to not breed is right (also right, I admit) to use gas to do it is wrong (whether you are right or left).

Tmac1720 2nd April 2019 12:43

Regards our parliament an the current crop of fu*kwits I have one question and one observation.

1. Why can you not simply do as you were instructed and leave the EU in its entirety? NOT a "hokey kokey version you want, in out in out shake it all about.

2. Come back Oliver Cromwell all is forgiven.

Ron Stringer 2nd April 2019 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmac1720 (Post 22553)
Regards our parliament an the current crop of fu*kwits I have one question and one observation.

Why can you not simply do as you were instructed and leave the EU in its entirety?


Surely with the approach of Good Friday you in Northwest Ulster ought to have concerns at the breaking of an international treaty that brought you, and the rest of the UK, relief from decades of conflict and death?

Tmac1720 2nd April 2019 15:58

Sorry Ron I don't equate leaving the EU with the Good Friday agreement. This was a tripartite agreement between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland with Northern Ireland as a signatory. Peace in this part of the country was achieved because each side realised they could not win a senseless and pointless conflict. Unfortunately too many people lost their lives and suffered horrendous injury before sense prevailed.

Ron Stringer 2nd April 2019 16:57

Tmac,


There are many discussions on the internet on the subject of Brexit and border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland becoming the EU's external border if the UK leaves the EU. The 'backstop' related to this possibility seems to have been the most contentious 'red line' subject throughout the recent negotiations between the UK and Brussels.


The subject is both contentious and complex, so I don't begin to understand it in any depth at all. Some information is here


I would rather Ireland did not return to the pre-treaty situation and consider that peace there is far more important than the status of any UK or EU politician, so the sooner that they stop posing and posturing and settle down to agreeing a compromise, the better.

Dartskipper 2nd April 2019 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varley (Post 22546)
But I am not sure you can Dartskipper. She clearly used the circumstances to promote German national interest. But, then, not everything that came from the Reich was wrong. Fortunately what was and is wrong is easily distinguished from the right.

Agreed with your last comment DV, but the united Germany of today is a different country to what it was pre 1939. Yes they have political unrest, and Merkel is clinging on to power like a geriatric limpet, but their economy is still reasonably robust despite recent horrors discovered in their automobile industry. I'm happy that she stood up for her own Country, I only wish our "negotiators" and representatives sent to Brussels did the same for the UK in the past 33 months. Apart from Farage and Hannan, when have we heard similar criticism of the Brussels Commissioners from our MEP's?

Varley 2nd April 2019 17:53

Dart.s Throughout Mrs. Thatcher's time? I rather thought that was what Cameron's mission there was about. I did, however, have a Chamber 'breakfast' hosted by Den Dover, an MEP (I think with Conservative membership) he was certainly a waste denier and completely opposed to the use of the veto (I had suggested that the veto should be re-introduced and used to extinguish lines of endeavour at their outset when approval from the council of Ministers was clearly bound to fail. He then gave an answer that might have been to one of his own questions but certainly was not to mine clearly had a low priority on Euro-civil servant waste). He was later 'done' for expenses misconduct.


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