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Steve 19th June 2017 08:44

Soton Docks circa 1964
 
http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-...on-docks-1964/

Place is unrecognisable now except maybe the Rank Mill, wish I had a time machine I would be back here in an instant :thumb::thumb:

Bliksem 19th June 2017 09:43

How sad. 'Video not authorised for your location.'.

R58484957 19th June 2017 10:25

Same here.

BobClay 19th June 2017 11:21

It's interesting to have Google Earth open while watching the video and see how the landscape has changed over half a century.

Stollman12 20th June 2017 07:22

I get the same message about not suitable for my device. Any Ideas on how I can make it suitable as I would still like to view it?

BobClay 20th June 2017 08:33

On my machine it is running in Adobe Flash Player. It will not run in Firefox but runs ok in Chrome, Edge and IE.

R58484957 20th June 2017 09:05

Problem now solved.first class flm

Stollman12 20th June 2017 09:42

I changed to Internet Explorer and Adobe flash Player. That worked and thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for posting the link.

Gulpers 20th June 2017 13:23

Excellent film Steve, dare I say it is extremely nost....c! :thumb:
Just shows you what us guys on container ships put an end to - shame in a way. :(

BobClay 20th June 2017 13:39

What was that album George Harrison did, 'All Things Must Pass.'

Yes it is a shame. But time is unforgiving.

mary75 20th June 2017 16:42

The last time I tried, the message I got was something like, "Not copyright in Canada."
But I'll try again, using Bob's suggestions.

mary75 20th June 2017 16:48

Tried again. Comment is: "This video is not authorized in your location."

BobClay 20th June 2017 16:49

That doesn't sound like a browser problem Mary, sadly quite a lot of videos have that status when it comes to international viewing. However try it anyway.

Chadburn 20th June 2017 16:54

Lovely voice over and some interesting shots of various craft including the Reclamation Plant where the Chief Engineer was usually also the Skipper.

Malcolm G 20th June 2017 19:05

Did it really take eight men to bring one rope ashore? :smoking:

David 20th June 2017 19:25

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Remember it well. The Safmarine Fruit Reefers used to berth opposite the Ocean Terminal. Went there many times. Usually we were in for 4 or 5 days. The Queen Elizabeth came in one day we were there. Watching in awe was a Junior Engineer, ex SA Railways, 'Do you know' the Mate said to him, ' the level of the dock goes up two feet when she comes in'. 'Wow really' said the young man !!!

Union Castle in the dry dock next door ?

David
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Gulpers 20th June 2017 20:29

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Originally Posted by David (Post 5175)
Remember it well. The Safmarine Fruit Reefers used to berth opposite the Ocean Terminal. Went there many times. Usually we were in for 4 or 5 days. The Queen Elizabeth came in one day we were there. Watching in awe was a Junior Engineer, ex SA Railways, 'Do you know' the Mate said to him, ' the level of the dock goes up two feet when she comes in'. 'Wow really' said the young man !!!

Union Castle in the dry dock next door ?

David
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Always thought the Safmarine colour scheme was striking. :supercool:

Hawkey01 21st June 2017 11:41

Steve,

I cant watch it either. I get the message - Video isn't encoded for you device - I am on W10 using Google chrome.

Neville

BobClay 21st June 2017 12:40

Make sure Adobe Flash Player is enabled for your browser. I don't think you can enable it in Firefox, but you should be able to for Chrome, Edge and Internet Explorer.

jimg0nxx 21st June 2017 13:02

I am able to watch it on Adobe Flash Player in Firefox and W10.

BobClay 21st June 2017 13:08

I can't enable Flash Player on my version of Firefox .. Version 54.0

David 21st June 2017 19:07

I am on Win10 v 1607 OS build 14393.1066, Edge and whatever basic stuff came with it earlier this year. No problem watching the video. I did note that Adobe Flash was not available, but I seem to manage very well without it.

I have watched the whole video this time. My time was 1965-66. Outspan oranges had progressed to cardboard boxes, so progress of sorts. Towards the end of the video it mentions 'valves' as being part of export cargo !! Though this was 'normal' for us oldies, it IS 50 years ago, and my, how things have changed

David
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BobClay 21st June 2017 19:36

Using another computer Firefox 47.0.1 played it no problem, with the ability to activate Adobe Flash, but Version 54 offers no option to activate or use it.

Howard 21st June 2017 20:55

A fascinating place! I was ten in 1954 and I discovered that if I bunked off Sunday school I could easily enter the Old Docks on my bike. You just waited until a lorry was going in or out and went in on the opposite side to the policemen on the gate who would be talking to the driver. Miles of railway line, ships all over the place, banana van trains being steam heated by USA tank engines, tugs getting up steam, BR ferries sailing in and out, dry docks all over the place, some empty, some full of water and the odd one with a ship in. Nobody seemed to mind me wandering about, except the policemen on the gate - I was usually caught on the way out. The New Docks were somewhat more difficult to enter but I managed it a couple of times. Later I discovered that if you could get hold of a rowing boat you could go practically anywhere were there was water and a trip round the Outer Dock and the Empress Dock was quite common. Little did I know that some years later I'd be running in and out of the Outer Dock on P&Os 'Eagle' and 'Dragon'.

Gulpers 21st June 2017 23:58

Video ran perfectly on my iPad - software iOS 10.3.2

David 22nd June 2017 08:14

I should have said that being new to Win10 earlier this year, I found that there was no file transfer available, so I had to buy Microsoft Office 2016. Again another learning curve. Stumping up £100 for a piece of cardboard with a scratch card on it was a new experience. I was tempted with the cheaper Office 365, but luckily decided on the proper version. Reading the small print shows that 365 means how long it lasts before you have to buy another 365 product.

David
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Chadburn 22nd June 2017 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 5234)
I am on Win10 v 1607 OS build 14393.1066, Edge and whatever basic stuff came with it earlier this year. No problem watching the video. I did note that Adobe Flash was not available, but I seem to manage very well without it.

I have watched the whole video this time. My time was 1965-66. Outspan oranges had progressed to cardboard boxes, so progress of sorts. Towards the end of the video it mentions 'valves' as being part of export cargo !! Though this was 'normal' for us oldies, it IS 50 years ago, and my, how things have changed

David
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Certainly a good advert for the Docks bearing in mind of the items that were exported out of there (according to the superb clipped tone voice over) came from Towns that had their own Docks which general cargo was exported through.

Farmer John 22nd June 2017 12:10

The clipped tones are Richard Baker, one time news reader. The mixture of things like valves, Healey 3000, Austin 1100, sight of the meals eaten in the canteen and so on, must give a date around 1960. Very much a time of transition.

Hawkey01 22nd June 2017 16:28

Depends on the system being used it appears. I could not view via Google chrome but it worked a treat using Microsoft Edge on W10. I have found that 10 does somethings without even asking. I have found recently that I have a new Scan facility and that the scan facility on my printer does not work. I have to do some changes in Setting to make it the preferential printer/scanner again.

Enjoyed the film - doesn't everything look old fashioned. Even the people look old and most probably young with families. Dockies with waste coats and jackets. Loved it.

Neville

Chadburn 22nd June 2017 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farmer John (Post 5264)
The clipped tones are Richard Baker, one time news reader. The mixture of things like valves, Healey 3000, Austin 1100, sight of the meals eaten in the canteen and so on, must give a date around 1960. Very much a time of transition.

That Healey looked superb, I should have twigged it was Richard Baker as I was at a lecture given by him for RNR Officers of which he was one. Mind, it was a long time ago.

David 22nd June 2017 19:27

I think it is the numbers of people working at each task. When the oranges were loaded in SA - PE & Cape Town in our case - they came to the dock side in railway waggons hauled by huge steam engines, and were manhandled off the loading palettes by large gangs of dockers and stowed individually into the hold. It took several days. I suppose you could call the reefers 'bulk carriers' in a sort of way

David
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David 23rd June 2017 19:26

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From the same period, a view of the France approaching the Ocean Terminal.

David
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Chadburn 1st July 2017 11:01

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Curious about this vessel shown in the film, anybody have any info on her please?
She appears to be a former series two RAF Seaplane Tender built by British Power Boats during WW2 and looks well kept, she has a name which I cannot make out.

Jolly Jack 1st July 2017 13:41

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Originally Posted by Chadburn (Post 5630)
Curious about this vessel shown in the film, anybody have any info on her please?
She appears to be a former series two RAF Seaplane Tender built by British Power Boats during WW2 and looks well kept, she has a name which I cannot make out.



Chad, I had a working model of one of those boats and it was an RAF tender with all the markings. As an aside, I got it for getting my 11plus in 1955.....all my mates that passed got bikes!!!


JJ.

Chadburn 1st July 2017 20:25

One of George Selmans superb Hull designs JJ which was later scaled up to form the lovely Hants and Dorsets Hulls. Selmans design principles are still used today but in plastic.

andysk 2nd December 2017 16:15

What a superb wallow in nostalgia ......
Cheers for the link .....

shipwreckssa 25th July 2022 12:22

oranges !
 
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Originally Posted by David (Post 5234)
I am on Win10 v 1607 OS build 14393.1066, Edge and whatever basic stuff came with it earlier this year. No problem watching the video. I did note that Adobe Flash was not available, but I seem to manage very well without it.

I have watched the whole video this time. My time was 1965-66. Outspan oranges had progressed to cardboard boxes, so progress of sorts. Towards the end of the video it mentions 'valves' as being part of export cargo !! Though this was 'normal' for us oldies, it IS 50 years ago, and my, how things have changed

David
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oranges and an outspan title - shipped aboard a ccal vessel from south africa


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