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cueball44 25th July 2018 18:48

The dog
 
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RAF Scampton is due to close. Known for 'The Dam Busters' and 'The Red Arrows'. Guy Gibsons dog is buried on the base. There was a mention on the local news stating the dog will be reburied elsewhere (the memorial). I wondered why the news reader didn't give the dogs name instead of referring to it as 'THE DOG'. :confused:

Saudisid 25th July 2018 19:38

Winston
I know the name of the dog and I suspect you do. Its all PC
Alan

cueball44 25th July 2018 19:53

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Originally Posted by Saudisid (Post 16448)
Winston
I know the name of the dog and I suspect you do. Its all PC
Alan

I do know the name. :thumb:. However I can't understand why whoever is talking about it (THE DOG) don't mention why they are not allowed to say the name. Not everyone on this planet knows the name of Guy Gibsons dog.

Dartskipper 25th July 2018 19:56

Don't tell them you have an original uncensored copy of the film.

John Rogers 25th July 2018 22:46

Its a bad word to use on a Black man now, back then before PC Police not so much, however we are talking about the name they gave the dog not a person so how could it be racial. Lets all call him Nipper, that was the name of my dog for 14 years, best dog ever.

Les Gibson 25th July 2018 22:49

True or not I was told that the only reason a remake of the Dambusters movie didn't happen was because they (the film makers) were not prepared to use the dog's name in the remake. I didn't know that the original film has been censored?

Farmer John 25th July 2018 23:11

I have the Henry Hall 78 disk of "The Sun Has Got His Hat On" with the naughty verse in it. I hope nobody ever finds it.

It is a strange thing, and the word has changed in meaning in that it never refers just to the colour of a garment or a dog nowadays. I am glad that it has become unacceptable, I just wish it never had been used in such an insulting way that made it so.

lakercapt 25th July 2018 23:12

The original film was most certainly censored as the bomb which was shown was not the type used as it was still one the secret list. The bomb did not have the mechanism to make it start spinning before it was released.

BobClay 25th July 2018 23:16

You can't 'edit' history in order to be PC. It's a daft idea. Nobody is arguing that the word is unacceptable when used in a racial context … but come on … Guy Gibson's dog ? … it was what it was.

To my mind you start 'editing' history for reasons of PC you're on a very dangerous course. :smoking:

lakercapt 26th July 2018 03:46

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Originally Posted by lakercapt (Post 16461)
The original film was most certainly censored as the bomb which was shown was not the type used as it was still one the secret list. The bomb did not have the mechanism to make it start spinning before it was released.

P.S. Many years ago we had a black "heinz" dog and it was called "Nigger" and we did not consider it racist or anything other than it was black. Things change as I remember there was a "Glolly Wog" as an emblem on a famous jam company's jam. One of the well known childerns stories was one called "Little Black Sambo" and I read it to our childern many imes and though nothing other than it was a story they wished to be read to then ad nausem.
Times change and the PC crowd wish to change history to comply with todays standards and as withe the well known Shakespeare line the evil lives after him and the good is buried with his bones (or there about!!)

Varley 26th July 2018 13:03

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On this topic. The Barber in this clipping is my late Maternal Grandfather.

Tmac1720 26th July 2018 16:24

The dog had a name, NIGGER, there I've said it so hopefully the PC brigade won't turn up outside my home with flaming crosses.

Fingers crossed the RAF will remove the remains and have them suitably re-interred in a new location.

YM-Mundrabilla 27th July 2018 03:34

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Originally Posted by Tmac1720 (Post 16496)
The dog had a name, NIGGER, there I've said it so hopefully the PC brigade won't turn up outside my home with flaming crosses.

Fingers crossed the RAF will remove the remains and have them suitably re-interred in a new location.

Tmac,

If you need a hand defending the perimeter from the PC Brigade I am available as I am renowned for tact and diplomacy (ha bloody ha) :jester: in lieu of political correctness.:jester:

It's a sad day when we are manipulating history in the same way that we accuse other countries of so doing rather than give well deserved credit to Nigger. We owe it to Gibson and the thousands of all services who died in WW 2.

Geoff (YM)

roscoes 27th July 2018 05:31

Onya Tmac 1720 and Geoff,


I fully endorse your comments and #10 Lakercapt too.


If my memory serves me right there was a shoe polish named Nigger Brown, and I think it was Robinsons Jam jar labels that had the 'Golly Wogs' on them.


Can't wait for the PC lot to do away with Man Holes!


Steve

BobClay 27th July 2018 08:50

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Originally Posted by roscoes (Post 16526)

Can't wait for the PC lot to do away with Man Holes!


Steve

You mean 'Entrance facilities to subterranean spaces.' :jester:

roscoes 27th July 2018 10:48

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Bob, I thought that was a Man Cave!

Steve

Varley 27th July 2018 10:53

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Originally Posted by roscoes (Post 16526)
Onya Tmac 1720 and Geoff,


I fully endorse your comments and #10 Lakercapt too.


If my memory serves me right there was a shoe polish named Nigger Brown, and I think it was Robinsons Jam jar labels that had the 'Golly Wogs' on them.


Can't wait for the PC lot to do away with Man Holes!


Steve

That'll leave us with just rum and the lash then?

BobClay 27th July 2018 11:40

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Originally Posted by roscoes (Post 16553)
#15

Bob, I thought that was a Man Cave!

Steve

Man Cave: Hidden away orifices or secret bunkers in the Earth's crust in which men keep enormous piles of otherwise useless rubbish items. :jester:

YM-Mundrabilla 27th July 2018 13:09

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Man Cave: Hidden away orifices or secret bunkers in the Earth's crust in which men keep enormous piles of otherwise useless rubbish items. :jester:

Does this meet the description Bob?
All sorts of stuff down this manhole, no doubt?

John Rogers 27th July 2018 13:53

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Does this meet the description Bob?
All sorts of stuff down this manhole, no doubt?

I have stood in front of this man hole, was it in Budapest?? I was on Danube river cruise at the time.:)

Dartskipper 27th July 2018 19:15

[QUOTE=roscoes;16526]Onya Tmac 1720 and Geoff,


I fully endorse your comments and #10 Lakercapt too.


If my memory serves me right there was a shoe polish named Nigger Brown, and I think it was Robinsons Jam jar labels that had the 'Golly Wogs' on them.


Quite true. Nigger Brown was an official colour in the leather goods trade. Robertson made the jam, Robinson made barley water. You ate Robertson's when you were well, and drank Robinson's when you were poorly. Robertson's preserves were great to mix up in a bowl of rice pudding. All sorts of colours could be created.

roscoes 28th July 2018 02:13

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Thanks for the correction re- the makers of Jam and Barley water it was all a long time ago.


In our house when feeling poorly we got a mug of stout with brown sugar, stirred with a red hot poker. The aroma was great and the taste even better, a miracle cure for sure.


Never have tasted Barley water, but highly recommend the above.

Tom Alexander 28th July 2018 07:03

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Originally Posted by roscoes (Post 16616)
#21 In our house when feeling poorly we got a mug of stout with brown sugar, stirred with a red hot poker. The aroma was great and the taste even better, a miracle cure for sure.



Rum, home squeezed fresh lemon juice, boiling hot water in three equal portions, with a teaspoon of brown sugar stirred in. Especially good for colds, sore throats, etc.

YM-Mundrabilla 28th July 2018 08:55

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I have stood in front of this man hole, was it in Budapest?? I was on Danube river cruise at the time.:)

John,
My pics were in Bratislava but they have good manholes in Budapest too. All brass - I wonder what this would be worth as scrap? :jester:
Geoff (YM)

BobClay 28th July 2018 08:56

Never mind a cold … sounds like the start of a good sesh to me … :sweat:


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