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jimg0nxx 17th November 2018 12:54

All our energy troubles may be over
 
Interesting article:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46219656

Ron Stringer 17th November 2018 13:10

A very old chestnut. When I was studying for my PMG 2nd Class in 1958, the press and the scientific community were full of Project Zeta. All I can remember was that Harwell and Newcastle University were involved and it necessitated use of a torus - my first introduction to toroidal components. It was going to produce electricity at such a low cost that within 30 years it would not be cost-effective to charge customers for electricity - the cost of invoicing would outweigh the production costs.


Every decade since then (or thereabouts), an announcement appears about a breakthrough in nuclear fusion, such that within 30 years electricity will be produced by this technology. It always seems to be 30 years away, keeping its distance rather like the end of the rainbow. The references always used to be to the potentially low production cost but in latter years that seems to have lost importance and the claims now are more biased towards low-carbon and climate change benefits.

jimg0nxx 17th November 2018 13:21

Hi Ron,
These latest claims are denying the 30 years hence story and saying it will be with us in 5 years! They are claiming reduced costs.

Like you I'll believe it when I see it.


Jim

BobClay 17th November 2018 14:37

Controlled fusion has been the Holy Grail come pipe dream for 60 years or more. Let's hope something comes of it. My own thinking is it has to happen with the amount of effort now being poured into it.

Varley 17th November 2018 15:05

I hope the optimists have it right.

Farmer John 17th November 2018 15:34

Super conductor temperatures seem to keep rising. This must help.

Dave McGouldrick 18th November 2018 16:11

A dedicated,cynical conspiracy theorist (not me you understand) might say that it is already available and has been for decades. Only the greed of the corporate ....etc..etc..etc.

BobClay 18th November 2018 17:39

I seem to remember a false start about 25 or so years ago called 'Cold Fusion.' Didn't need the fancy paraphernalia of torus reactors or super lasers, just a sort of chemical lab something like that in 'Breaking Bad' for cooking Meth.
But apparently the people who claimed it had been using Meth … :eat_arrow::big_tongue:

Engine Serang 18th November 2018 17:59

No-no-no, Drax is the future.

Ron Stringer 18th November 2018 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine Serang (Post 19812)
No-no-no, Drax is the future.




.... as soon as Yorkshire gets its independence. :jester:

Farmer John 18th November 2018 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Stringer (Post 19813)
.... as soon as Yorkshire gets its independence. :jester:

Can't be long. We've been bloody contrary for decades.

BobClay 18th November 2018 22:41

Once it's explained to Yorkshire how much brass it would cost them, they'll totally skin out. Or alternatively, we could go through a sort of Yorkexit similar to the farce we're going through now … but: … (goes into Yorky mode) … "If it costs more than five bob … appen tha'll give it tut miss."

:sweat::big_tongue:


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