[John Rogers]

Originally Posted by Tmac1720

How very true that young men die for old men's wars. To quote George S Patton, in war there are no winners or losers only survivors. Our, for want of a better word, leaders should never have gotten us involved in the first place. This was a war militarily we could easily win except we were never allowed to. Soldiers are NOT policemen, educators, diplomats or humanitarian facilitators, their job, which they are trained to do is kill the enemy, period.

Russia with all its might lost badly in Afghanistan, the US failed to learn the lessons of Korea and Vietnam and is now paying the same terrible price for failure.

It is much the same here in Northern Ireland, the crown forces were shoehorned into a policing role against ruthless terrorists and murderers on both sides. Hands tied behind their back they were in essence canon fodder with the result that after over 30 years of bloodshed and strife we now have the same murderous scum peddling their poison from the seat of government. Families of those who lost their lives here can rightly ask "what the hell was it all for?"

One day perhaps in our case we will realise we have enough troubles at home without becoming involved in other peoples conflicts especially ones our armed forces are NOT allowed to win.

Right on Tmac.