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I can only go on media and internet reports on these two vessels which I do not find encouraging. There have been various internet entries on the subject.
I usually operate on the basis that when a politian officially confirms or denies something it is not to be believed (100% at least). Sir Humphrey Appleby taught me this.
There was also a very disparaging interview on TV with an independent politician ex-submariner when Adelaide's current problems emerged which I found telling.
I am probably a prejudiced railwayman dinosaur with mechanical things where I prefer big, heavy, robust machinery which obviously puts me at odds with modern gas turbine powered things.
How are these things and the Collins U-boats et al going to fight off the Chinese when they come?
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If Global Warming is so prevalent why are there so many snowflakes around? 
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