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Old 26th August 2021, 19:26
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Using sophisticated extrapolation techniques (a straight edge and AIS plot) it would appear that her steady course at 0021 would have taken her exactly to where she now finds herself.
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Old 6th September 2021, 09:38
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Meanwhile more than 240,000,000 miles away, the second attempt got the core ....

The clarity of this pix is just astounding ....
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Old 6th September 2021, 12:44
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I hear that the crew are confined onboard because the Island welcomes only careful drivers.
And mad motorcyclists who ride their machines TTterribly fast.
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Old 6th September 2021, 18:13
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Meanwhile more than 240,000,000 miles away, the second attempt got the core ....

The clarity of this pix is just astounding ....

This video is amazing too!


https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZEyAs3NWH4A
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Old 6th September 2021, 19:20
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That's the bit I find really astounding. Getting those pix back to Earth given the difficulties of communications in terms of choice of routes and data rates.

Bashing a Morse key in the Pacific with a hope and a prayer to get Portishead to answer seems a bit trivial in comparison.
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On the subject of data links - Go back to the 60s, 70s.
Sporting events, not even the other side of the world, just the other side of the continent.
The pictures were as good as you could get with 405 lines interlaced.
The commentary on the other hand sounded like the commentator was sucking a lolly with his head in a bucket and the mike on the other side of a gymnasium.
Maybe they used ALL the bandwidth to get the pictures.
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Old 6th September 2021, 20:26
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I have heard that a picture such as the one Bob put is is actually, maybe, thousands of tiny pictures. These are then assembled by a computer, with the error detection code and considerable AI components. BTW, they are not even transmitted in colour (grayscale) but are colourized by the programme based on instrument data from the surface!

While I am not au fait with the actual system used, something I have seen and been able to gather important information from are the scanning lasers to produce a "cloud" 3D model. The "model" is not physically comprised of faces, vertices, chamfers, fillets, etc. like I used to make in Autocad in order to produce moulds for, amongst other thing, Colgate toothbrushes, telephones or shampoo bottles, but is instead a collection of georeferenced points, think of millions of surveyors marks.

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'... The commentary on the other hand sounded like the commentator was sucking a lolly with his head in a bucket and the mike on the other side of a gymnasium. ... '

Sounds like many of the (mostly female) newsreaders here in Melbourne.
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Old 7th September 2021, 19:27
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Meanwhile more than 240,000,000 miles away, the second attempt got the core ....

The clarity of this pix is just astounding ....
Some folk would have put a sheet of the Daily Mirror under the rock to collect all that dust from the drill.
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Old 7th September 2021, 19:53
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That would be something if two green claw like hands with a dust pan and brush appeared from the side of the shot and cleaned up the dust. !!

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Old 8th September 2021, 18:27
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I can just remember the moon landing in 1969 (I was eight). I watched it on a 12" B&W Zenith TV, the only set in the house! How things have changed...



Makko has it just about right with how the pictures are transmitted and assembled.
Much as I love film, film can't do this.
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Old 9th September 2021, 22:45
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Football anyone ? (soccer to our colonial cousins).
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Football anyone ? (soccer to our colonial cousins).
They didn't try golf first?
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Football anyone ? (soccer to our colonial cousins).
Is this the new home of Yeovil Town?
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Football anyone ? (soccer to our colonial cousins).
I've played on similar pitches, perhaps not quite as bad. Many teams in Antrim League Division 5 did not have perfect pitches and the local farmer usually had grazing rights on non matchdays, and you got changed behind the clump of bushes beside the goalposts. And you had a bath when you got home. Showers weren't invented in the mid 60's.
God times were hard.
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Old 10th September 2021, 10:42
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You had a bath ????

LUXURY !!
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Old 10th September 2021, 12:46
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I've played on similar pitches, perhaps not quite as bad. Many teams in Antrim League Division 5 did not have perfect pitches and the local farmer usually had grazing rights on non matchdays, and you got changed behind the clump of bushes beside the goalposts. And you had a bath when you got home. Showers weren't invented in the mid 60's.
God times were hard.
God that bring back memories, I remember placing the ball on the penalty spot that was a cow pat

maybe we even played with each other Dear God what am I saying?
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Old 10th September 2021, 22:59
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Meanwhile, back on Mars:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSIwnOKJXuw
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Old 10th September 2021, 23:46
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Fixing a wobbly helicopter from nearly a quarter of a million miles away. That's quite a ground crew ...
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Old 11th September 2021, 03:29
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Fixing a wobbly helicopter from nearly a quarter of a million miles away. That's quite a ground crew ...



Helicopters fly because earth hates them.
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Old 11th September 2021, 11:21
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If palm trees were meant to fly god would never have given us the balloon.
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Old 11th September 2021, 13:08
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Fixing a wobbly helicopter from nearly a quarter of a million miles away. That's quite a ground crew ...

I'm the new guy, probably not my place to correct.
The nearest approach to Mars is 54.6 million kliks - 33 & 3/4 million miles.
The farthest distance is 410 million kliks - 250 & 5/8 million miles.
Average is 225 million kliks - 140 & 5/8 million miles. It's the moon that's roughly a quarter million miles.


I can recalibrate these distances to light-seconds should you wish. I gotta nice graphing calculator here. I maybe understand 12% of it's capabilities.
Never flown in a helicopter, never will. They're unnatural, unaerodynamic, unmechanical creations.

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I'm the new guy, probably not my place to correct.
The nearest approach to Mars is 54.6 million kliks - 33 & 3/4 million miles.
The farthest distance is 410 million kliks - 250 & 5/8 million miles.
Average is 225 million kliks - 140 & 5/8 million miles. It's the moon that's roughly a quarter million miles.


I can recalibrate these distances to light-seconds should you wish. I gotta nice graphing calculator here. I maybe understand 12% of it's capabilities.
Never flown in a helicopter, never will. They're unnatural, unaerodynamic, unmechanical creations.
Different distance from Cornwall...
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Old 11th September 2021, 14:41
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You're right, I got my zeroes mixed up. Mars is nearly 250,000,000 miles away at the moment. It's on the other side of the Sun.

Hence the delays in data comms.
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