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Old 24th September 2020, 13:09
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I remember Mammy Blue from a bar in my first trip and first visit to Rotterdam (Texaco Denmark). Not sure the Stones were the original artistes. It remains one of the few bits of modern music that I can appreciate.

(I also remember a junior engineer escaping the wrath of the taxi driver by throwing up out of the window on the way back).
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I remember Not sure the Stones were the original artistes. It remains one of the few bits of modern mammy Blue from a bar in my first trip and first visit to Rotterdam (Texaco Denmark). Music that I can appreciate..
The point was that Mammy Blue was something that two of us felt you needed the Stones harshly doing their thing to eradicate. Though listening to the eradication-means, "Brown Sugar", today I do not think the Stones were worth the jukebox cost.

Btw, the left leaning newspaper (Dagbladet) that I read in my youth had two charts, one for Pop, where the Beatles was listed, and one for Rock where the Stones figured among a lot of Afro-american musicians. (In the pop charts there were only Whites.) The roots to American blues were somewhat sanctifying to the people who were religious about popular music. Beatles and ABBA, and especially the Monkeys, were considered purely commercial and so dishonest. Later on, after the Disco craze, Bob Marley would receive the same accolades, for playing directly from the heart and the soul and a superior insight the meaning of life.

I myself have doubts about all religious attitudes to music. I once heard two old Jewish ladies who had survived a death camp wonder how the camp commander could be so cruel - when he had such a sensitive ear for the great composers! (They could hear his record player through an open window in his office,)

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Makes me proud to be a Texaco man.
PS. Don't be a music snob. You're still too young to listen to music that never breaks into a tune.
Manuel and his Music of the Mountains should be your goal.
My parents would have agreed with you E-S. Ma was good at the Charleston and Black Bottom (presumably those matter too) and bar the Entrance of the Queen of Sheba (presumably a black front bottom) and renditions of "In the Black Whale in Ashkalon", (where a man drank for forty nights until he lay as stiff as a board beside the kitchen table) in German, he aspired to modern art-noise.

I suppose I simply don't like music. Not possible in macro terms but with the majority of music being in the distant passed I suppose it is natural that there are more of those fewer favourites in past canons than in current ones. There are a few exceptions (just to prove that I am not doing it out of pure snobbery) but rarely genres, just odd 'tracks' (see? I even know some of the jargon).
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Here is a song for our Norwegian friend since he loves Tangos. Cant beat this one, Good looking French gal singing a Spanish song in German.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...CDC30BF2870A41
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Old 24th September 2020, 16:59
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The Germans voted for the greatest popular tune of all time a couple of years back, and "La Paloma" won by a good margin. But the Germans preferred it sung by their own Freddy Quinn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L45Fqntq8JY Forever popular in Germany, and more tango like, is "Die Capri Fischer." Recently sung by Max Raabe, an openly gay performer who generally spoofs all the classics he performs (a perfect example is his version of Tom Jones' "Sex Bomb" where his non-passionate "oh-ah" grunts is in stark contrast with the text. Capri fischer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqiHMEZgUw
As for the Argentinian tango, the Argentinians swear by their legendary Carlos Gardel, and accepts no real competition. It is the old Carlos Gardel hits that Iglesias sings, like the well known "Adios Pampa Mia", and "A Media Luz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnL3GzCNLrY Luz: ] Carlos Gardel : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr4-J6l11Ashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnL3GzCNLrY

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Freddy Quinn is or was a fine singer, I bought a LP of his many moons ago, he sings about St. Pauli in Hamburg, I think it was called Sailor, I still have it stored along with many old LP records. Yes Freddy sang La Paloma very well with the passion of the tango. I will check out Carlos when I have finished posting. Due to my two new knee joints my tango dancing is over.
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Pa would have done better (louder, anyway).
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Horrified "Im schwarzen Walfisch zu Askalon" didn't make the cut.
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Abba? Not quite (this is a very poor recording).
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Really not bad, I quite liked parts of it, might well like it better on a second hearing, and I will accept a connection to Zappa, but what the connection to Abba is I have no idea. If I should suggest some music on the base of that, it would have to be Birelli Lagrene. It is to late to search for something on the internet with his guitar play, but he is available there for sure.

On second thought, I think I will forego the Gipsy Jazz Guitar of Birelli Lagrene, for something you are unlikely to have heard. Finnish Jukka Tolonen is never mentioned among the rock guitar virtuoses in English listings of such, but he was good. That is until he shot his wife and found Jesus thereby. Maybe the language is insurmountable - the name of his first band, Tasavallan Presidentti, is not what an ad-man would call saleable. I do not know what I have found here, but it might be worth listening to anyway, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqhoEzyIv_0

Here is Lagrene anyway, sounding very much like Django at times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUTzpm0feC0

Going far away from the theme of expensive Stones tickets, this is what I have been playing when driving lately - Boogaloo Joe Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3z_e02ggk0 I was sitting in my parked car with outside the local dentists office, with the side windows down and Boogaloo going at full blast. Waiting for a lull before turning him off. A lady stepped out of her car beside me, and walking up the stairs outside the building showed some uncontrollable gyrations as directed by this guitarist. Somethings gotta move when he gets into it. Here with an organist not far behind Jimmy Smith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VujyqfIx6jI

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Old 26th September 2020, 10:20
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The Germans voted for the greatest popular tune of all time a couple of years back, and "La Paloma" won by a good margin. But the Germans preferred it sung by their own Freddy Quinn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L45Fqntq8JY Forever popular in Germany, and more tango like, is "Die Capri Fischer." Recently sung by Max Raabe, an openly gay performer who generally spoofs all the classics he performs (a perfect example is his version of Tom Jones' "Sex Bomb" where his non-passionate "oh-ah" grunts is in stark contrast with the text. Capri fischer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqiHMEZgUw
As for the Argentinian tango, the Argentinians swear by their legendary Carlos Gardel, and accepts no real competition. It is the old Carlos Gardel hits that Iglesias sings, like the well known "Adios Pampa Mia", and "A Media Luz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnL3GzCNLrY Luz: ] Carlos Gardel : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr4-J6l11Ashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnL3GzCNLrY
Svein, La Paloma was the very first tune my guitar teacher taught me back in 1958. When I joined the Medway Saints(!) Skiffle Group the following year, we included it as an instrumental in our - dare I say...."repertoire"....

ES, I liked Helen Shapiro - a strong voice and not-bad songs in the day.

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Really not bad, I quite liked parts of it, might well like it better on a second hearing, and I will accept a connection to Zappa, but what the connection to Abba is I have no idea. If I should suggest some music on the base of that, it would have to be Birelli Lagrene. It is to late to search for something on the internet with his guitar play, but he is available there for sure.

On second thought, I think I will forego the Gipsy Jazz Guitar of Birelli Lagrene, for something you are unlikely to have heard. Finnish Jukka Tolonen is never mentioned among the rock guitar virtuoses in English listings of such, but he was good. That is until he shot his wife and found Jesus thereby. Maybe the language is insurmountable - the name of his first band, Tasavallan Presidentti, is not what an ad-man would call saleable. I do not know what I have found here, but it might be worth listening to anyway, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqhoEzyIv_0

Here is Lagrene anyway, sounding very much like Django at times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUTzpm0feC0

Going far away from the theme of expensive Stones tickets, this is what I have been playing when driving lately - Boogaloo Joe Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3z_e02ggk0 I was sitting in my parked car with outside the local dentists office, with the side windows down and Boogaloo going at full blast. Waiting for a lull before turning him off. A lady stepped out of her car beside me, and walking up the stairs outside the building showed some uncontrollable gyrations as directed by this guitarist. Somethings gotta move when he gets into it. Here with an organist not far behind Jimmy Smith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VujyqfIx6jI
Thanks for that, Svein. I've never heard of Lagrene but I enjoyed his playing - I wish my fingers would move like that these days.......

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You think he is fast now - look at him when he was a child: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_uLEIphzFA
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You think he is fast now - look at him when he was a child: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_uLEIphzFA
Thanks for that, mate - now I feel even more decrepit......lol.

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